PAT: Yes, it was.
GLENN: And the same about an hour later we found out that the president was appointing somebody to be a new czar.
PAT: Yes, Ron Bloom.
GLENN: Ron Bloom, our manufacturing czar.
GLENN: He is the guy who's going to turn around our manufacturing.
PAT: He was a big union guy.
GLENN: He's a big union guy.
PAT: We were very excited about that.
GLENN: Do you remember when I first heard about that and I started to Google Ron Bloom.
PAT: I do.
GLENN: And I said something's wrong here. Do you remember that?
PAT: I do.
PAT: I thought surely not.
GLENN: Surely not.
PAT: Surely, not another one.
GLENN: And after about another hour I figured he had some nefarious ties to some socialist and redistributive wealth kind of organizations.
STU: But that's all theory and
GLENN: Can I tell you something? Yes, and that's why we never went on the air with it because we couldn't nail it down specifically. It was in his youth. And I said at the time, I'm telling you something's wrong. Well, may I?
PAT: Yes, you may.
GLENN: May I now play the audio of our manufacturing czar giving a speech. This is when he was the head of the unions, giving a speech on how the manufacturing sector is just falling apart.
PAT: But this is way I mean, this is such ancient, old history.
GLENN: Politics of the past really.
PAT: I mean, a little closer to, like
STU: 1880, 1888?
PAT: 2008. Way back.
GLENN: So way back in ought 8.
PAT: Ought 8.
GLENN: If we can get the media to say it's from ought 8.
PAT: It sounds really old.
GLENN: It does. So here is Ron Bloom's, the administration's manufacturing czar, the latest in a long, long line of those who don't understand America.
BLOOM: Generally speaking we get the joke. We know that the free market is nonsense, we know that the whole point is
GLENN: Oh, stop. Stop, stop.
STU: What a way to open a speech, everybody.
PAT: I get that joke. (Laughing).
GLENN: We get the joke.
PAT: What America doesn't get, that the free market.
GLENN: That the free market
PAT: Is nonsense.
GLENN: Is nonsense.
STU: Oh, that's hilarious.
GLENN: Play it again. He'll be at yuck yuck's all week.
BLOOM: Generally speaking we get the joke. We know that the free market is nonsense.
GLENN: Wait, wait, wait. There's more.
BLOOM: Generally speaking we get the joke. We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market, or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money because they're convinced that there is a free lunch. We know this is largely about power, that it's an adults only, no limit game. We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun. And we get it that if you want a friend, you should get a dog.
GLENN: Hmmm. I don't have a problem with that. That's just the guy who's restructuring manufacturing in America.
PAT: Can you imagine the jobs he will be creating?
GLENN: Oh, my gosh, of course.
PAT: All Maoists know how to create jobs.
GLENN: Sure. And they don't I mean, anybody who knows that the free market is nonsense, they're going to be able to, they are going to be able to build a great car, I'll tell you that right now. Sure. Especially the kind of car that you buy after somebody puts a barrel of a gun to your head. Those are the kinds of cars that sell, usually. Don't you think?
PAT: Oh, yeah.
PAT: Uh huh.
STU: What is his I'm just, I'm sorry. And I know I shouldn't be shaken by this at this point, but this is the
GLENN: Yes, you should. Yes, you should. You should be you know what you should be shaken by? Not only that yet there's another one, but you should be shaken by the fact that no one in the media is are you telling me that Glenn Beck, a guy who's been a deejay his whole life, a guy who doesn't have a degree from any university, doesn't have one, is a normal guy, just a dad, I can be standing some place and hear that Van Jones is out and at the same time Van Jones goes out, Barack Obama gives a speech and appoints Ron Bloom, and Glenn Beck can then look at that and go, wait a minute, I something's not right with that? Really? What is it? My education? Is it my vision? Is that what it is?
PAT: No, it's that you're in bed with the Republican Party. You're just a wing of the
GLENN: Oh, a research arm.
PAT: A rightwing research arm.
GLENN: That's what it is. So I can do that, but there's no one else in journalism that can do that? There's no one else? Nobody even finds that interesting, that we have a guy who has now been appointed as the manufacturing czar and he doesn't believe in the free market system? Oh, and he pretty much agrees with Mao that power comes from the end in the barrel of a gun. Do you? Do you believe that, that power comes from the barrel of a gun? Do you believe that? I mean, sure, I guess. I guess. Yes, you would claim that, well, I guess so. If you are going to point a gun to my head, you do have a lot of power. But beyond in the, okay, totally evil sort of way, no, I don't agree with that. Do you agree with that, Pat?
PAT: No. In America we've proven over and over and over again that's not the case. Every election we've had that has been so contentious, you know, look at 2000, for instance. There weren't tanks in the street. 2004, 2008, they were all contentious. And there was no there were no barrels of guns.
STU: Because specifically, too, I'm no Maoist, but I am a thinker.
STU: And isn't the quote political power comes at the barrel of a gun? I don't know that for a fact, but isn't it he's talking specifically about all political power, isn't he?
GLENN: I think that's what Mao said.
PAT: Yeah, I think it might be.
STU: That's what I'm saying.
PAT: I'll have to bone up on my Mao quotes because I'm not up on them.
GLENN: Oh, I have Mao's little red book in my office. Would you like me to get it? Sure.
STU: Because you can certainly make the arguments that global powers are the ones with the biggest weapons. They are certainly for the most part true. I'm proud of it. Thankfully we have them. But you're right. It's
GLENN: You are talking about the free market system here. He's talking about the role that unions play in fixing the system. That's what the speech was about.
STU: What is I mean
PAT: It's bizarre.
STU: I'm really trying to come up with a separate because there's always, they are always going to come back with something, right? Maybe he's going to say he heard that line from Lee Atwater. Something is coming back here. What is it? Because like he
GLENN: They don't care anymore. Look, let me tell you
PAT: Well, they care enough to make the excuses for Anita Dunn.
GLENN: But it was a lame excuse.
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